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		<title>By: Admin</title>
		<link>http://www.kirklandviews.com/2008/08/07/vision-2040-for-pugetopolis/#comment-1091</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting, if somewhat dreary, future you paint.
Thank you for your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting, if somewhat dreary, future you paint.<br />
Thank you for your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned in Kirkland</title>
		<link>http://www.kirklandviews.com/2008/08/07/vision-2040-for-pugetopolis/#comment-1090</link>
		<dc:creator>Concerned in Kirkland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A contrarian views to stimulate discussion. 

I think Mr. Morrill made some excellent points, but also missed a major macro-trend. Global energy sector insiders now concede we passed 'global peak oil' sometime around 2006.  This means we have consumed more the half of the earth's one-time endowment of oil, and are now on the downhill slope of oil supply. Yet, oil consumption is increasing.  

At current consumption rates, it is estimated there is about a 40 year supply of oil left in the world, including tar-sands and shale, which may not even be economically viable to produce, because it takes almost a barrel of oil to produce a barrel of oil. 

Nifty pictures of futurist vehicles aside, transportation issues will to huge 2040.  You think gas is expensive now?!  It will likely be over $25 a gallon in 2040, if we can even get it.  The days of cheap transportation will be over.  The outlying suburbs of today will slowly become the ghettos of tomorrow.  People of means will continue to want to live close to economic, and cultural centers, where walking or riding a bike to work, the store/market, and entertainment is viable and easy.  

Bringing food from distant regions of the US, and even distant country's, will be less and less economically viable.  There will be a renewed interest in preserving, and actually using our productive farmland, that in recent years have been plowed and paved over to create new suburban communities, and warehouse and distribution centers.  Private yards with grass will become a luxury, many will not, or cannot afford.  More people will start to remove their lawns to grow food to supplement expensive, and possibly even scarce local food supplies.

Our economy's will become more local out of necessity, as will our reliance single occupant vehicles.  More workers will work from home - at least those that are work in jobs that lend themselves to this, which are likely the higher paying jobs.  Boeing will be in its death throws.  With the prospect of little to no oil in the near future (beyond 2040), airlines will be keen on buying new, expensive planes, and the general public will not be able to afford commercial flight soon anyway.  

Kirkland is in a good position to survive the coming era of declining oil, especially if we make smart choices with this future in mind.  Pugetopolis will be a different place than it is today.  If our leader’s starts thinking about issues like this that are in our future, they may make very different decisions today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A contrarian views to stimulate discussion. </p>
<p>I think Mr. Morrill made some excellent points, but also missed a major macro-trend. Global energy sector insiders now concede we passed &#8216;global peak oil&#8217; sometime around 2006.  This means we have consumed more the half of the earth&#8217;s one-time endowment of oil, and are now on the downhill slope of oil supply. Yet, oil consumption is increasing.  </p>
<p>At current consumption rates, it is estimated there is about a 40 year supply of oil left in the world, including tar-sands and shale, which may not even be economically viable to produce, because it takes almost a barrel of oil to produce a barrel of oil. </p>
<p>Nifty pictures of futurist vehicles aside, transportation issues will to huge 2040.  You think gas is expensive now?!  It will likely be over $25 a gallon in 2040, if we can even get it.  The days of cheap transportation will be over.  The outlying suburbs of today will slowly become the ghettos of tomorrow.  People of means will continue to want to live close to economic, and cultural centers, where walking or riding a bike to work, the store/market, and entertainment is viable and easy.  </p>
<p>Bringing food from distant regions of the US, and even distant country&#8217;s, will be less and less economically viable.  There will be a renewed interest in preserving, and actually using our productive farmland, that in recent years have been plowed and paved over to create new suburban communities, and warehouse and distribution centers.  Private yards with grass will become a luxury, many will not, or cannot afford.  More people will start to remove their lawns to grow food to supplement expensive, and possibly even scarce local food supplies.</p>
<p>Our economy&#8217;s will become more local out of necessity, as will our reliance single occupant vehicles.  More workers will work from home - at least those that are work in jobs that lend themselves to this, which are likely the higher paying jobs.  Boeing will be in its death throws.  With the prospect of little to no oil in the near future (beyond 2040), airlines will be keen on buying new, expensive planes, and the general public will not be able to afford commercial flight soon anyway.  </p>
<p>Kirkland is in a good position to survive the coming era of declining oil, especially if we make smart choices with this future in mind.  Pugetopolis will be a different place than it is today.  If our leader’s starts thinking about issues like this that are in our future, they may make very different decisions today.</p>
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		<title>By: DowntownCondoDweller</title>
		<link>http://www.kirklandviews.com/2008/08/07/vision-2040-for-pugetopolis/#comment-1059</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this.  I thought it was great when I read it the first time on crosscut.  For those who are unaware of this site www.crosscut.com is an excellent site for keeping up with what is going on in the Northwest.

One of the major themes in the article is that people are going to live where they want to live and feel comfortable living - even if it means a longer commute.  This idea is reinforced in the book The Big Sort by Bill Bishop: http://www.thebigsort.com/home.php 
His theory is that people will choose to live with people who think like them.  This is leading to a very segregated country and I think this article shows that as well.  

Urban planners need to start taking these realities into account more than they currently do and try to create communities that will allow people to live in denser, more sustainable areas closer to where they work - but in order to do so they are going to have to look past the physical aspects of the planning and really analyze the demographics.  Hard to do, but I think critical if we want to create more livable communities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this.  I thought it was great when I read it the first time on crosscut.  For those who are unaware of this site <a href="http://www.crosscut.com" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.crosscut.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.crosscut.com</a> is an excellent site for keeping up with what is going on in the Northwest.</p>
<p>One of the major themes in the article is that people are going to live where they want to live and feel comfortable living - even if it means a longer commute.  This idea is reinforced in the book The Big Sort by Bill Bishop: <a href="http://www.thebigsort.com/home.php" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.thebigsort.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.thebigsort.com/home.php</a><br />
His theory is that people will choose to live with people who think like them.  This is leading to a very segregated country and I think this article shows that as well.  </p>
<p>Urban planners need to start taking these realities into account more than they currently do and try to create communities that will allow people to live in denser, more sustainable areas closer to where they work - but in order to do so they are going to have to look past the physical aspects of the planning and really analyze the demographics.  Hard to do, but I think critical if we want to create more livable communities.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Butcher</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The future of the BNSF corridor has been discussed at some length on this site. You can read more about that at www.kirklandviews.com/tag/bnsf-trailrail/
The reason I chose to re-publish this article by Richard Morrill is that he offers a perspective not shared by the groups who have submitted articles here to date. We have arguments for rail, for a trail and for both. Mr. Morrill looks at the big picture of what changes we will see in the region and arrives at some thought provoking conclusions.
Yes, transportation is a part of the article but the piece deals with many more issues as well.
Thank you for your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The future of the BNSF corridor has been discussed at some length on this site. You can read more about that at <a href="http://www.kirklandviews.com/tag/bnsf-trailrail/"  rel="nofollow">http://www.kirklandviews.com/tag/bnsf-trailrail/</a><br />
The reason I chose to re-publish this article by Richard Morrill is that he offers a perspective not shared by the groups who have submitted articles here to date. We have arguments for rail, for a trail and for both. Mr. Morrill looks at the big picture of what changes we will see in the region and arrives at some thought provoking conclusions.<br />
Yes, transportation is a part of the article but the piece deals with many more issues as well.<br />
Thank you for your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: dogwalk</title>
		<link>http://www.kirklandviews.com/2008/08/07/vision-2040-for-pugetopolis/#comment-1043</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a big supporter of light rail and I think we have a perfect opportunity to use the BNSF line as an inexpensive right of way. We can add a trail next to it and benefit multiple users. Kemper Freeman has his own agenda and it is not in line with the rest of the Eastside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a big supporter of light rail and I think we have a perfect opportunity to use the BNSF line as an inexpensive right of way. We can add a trail next to it and benefit multiple users. Kemper Freeman has his own agenda and it is not in line with the rest of the Eastside.</p>
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		<title>By: SRH Resident</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest I don't use mass transit as much as I could. I think the biggest reason is that it is not convenient. As our population explodes I fear travel by any means is going to degrade. This gentleman has a perspective that I have not read before. His is not a popular view in many parts of Seattle. I wonder how far apart the East Side is from Seattle in terms of transit issues. I know Kemper Freeman thinks transit money should go to new roads. I just think Kirkland will not benefit from any transit money unless it is for expanded bus service. We don't have a Microsoft to pull a rail line our way. Maybe Google has some pull.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest I don&#8217;t use mass transit as much as I could. I think the biggest reason is that it is not convenient. As our population explodes I fear travel by any means is going to degrade. This gentleman has a perspective that I have not read before. His is not a popular view in many parts of Seattle. I wonder how far apart the East Side is from Seattle in terms of transit issues. I know Kemper Freeman thinks transit money should go to new roads. I just think Kirkland will not benefit from any transit money unless it is for expanded bus service. We don&#8217;t have a Microsoft to pull a rail line our way. Maybe Google has some pull.</p>
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