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	<title>Comments on: BNSF Corridor gives this Eastside Trail advocate a new view on NIMBYs</title>
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		<title>By: BNSF Corridor - Cascade Bicycle Club and Cascadia Center share their views</title>
		<link>http://www.kirklandviews.com/2008/07/07/bnsf-corridor-gives-this-eastside-trail-advocate-a-new-view-on-nimbys/#comment-595</link>
		<dc:creator>BNSF Corridor - Cascade Bicycle Club and Cascadia Center share their views</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dustbin</title>
		<link>http://www.kirklandviews.com/2008/07/07/bnsf-corridor-gives-this-eastside-trail-advocate-a-new-view-on-nimbys/#comment-559</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Links to Examples:
&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99FALVdbq4s&#38;feature=related" rel="nofollow"&gt;Diesel Multiple Train in France&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWhy32vJS6Q" rel="nofollow"&gt;Diesel Multiple Train in New Jersey - Riverline&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beAxWbrhDj4" rel="nofollow"&gt;Diesel Multiple Train in San Diego - NCTD&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Links to Examples:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99FALVdbq4s&amp;feature=related" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.youtube.com');" rel="nofollow">Diesel Multiple Train in France</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWhy32vJS6Q" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.youtube.com');" rel="nofollow">Diesel Multiple Train in New Jersey - Riverline</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beAxWbrhDj4" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.youtube.com');" rel="nofollow">Diesel Multiple Train in San Diego - NCTD</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dustbin</title>
		<link>http://www.kirklandviews.com/2008/07/07/bnsf-corridor-gives-this-eastside-trail-advocate-a-new-view-on-nimbys/#comment-558</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed how many people here are against the train as it would be diesel so it must be a huge, smelly, and noisy train that would be "frightening to be within 50' of it". The new Diesel Multiple Unit trains are very quiet compared to the diesel commuter train in use right now and are clean and fast. These trains are used all over the world and are extensively used in Europe. While they are not common in the United States, they are gaining in popularity.

Some examples:
&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99FALVdbq4s&#38;feature=related" title="Diesel Multiple Train in France" rel="nofollow"&gt;

&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWhy32vJS6Q" title="Diesel Multiple Train in New Jersey - Riverline" rel="nofollow"&gt;

&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beAxWbrhDj4" title="Diesel Multiple Train in San Diego - NCTD" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed how many people here are against the train as it would be diesel so it must be a huge, smelly, and noisy train that would be &#8220;frightening to be within 50&#8242; of it&#8221;. The new Diesel Multiple Unit trains are very quiet compared to the diesel commuter train in use right now and are clean and fast. These trains are used all over the world and are extensively used in Europe. While they are not common in the United States, they are gaining in popularity.</p>
<p>Some examples:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99FALVdbq4s&amp;feature=related" title="Diesel Multiple Train in France" rel="nofollow"></p>
<p></a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWhy32vJS6Q" title="Diesel Multiple Train in New Jersey - Riverline" rel="nofollow"></p>
<p></a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beAxWbrhDj4" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.youtube.com');" title="Diesel Multiple Train in San Diego - NCTD" rel="nofollow"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 02:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The corridor south of Woodinville should be thought of for what it is, an abandoned rail-banked right-of-way that is now available for better uses.

Even the dinner train through Kirkland would severely compromise the corridor for far better uses, by requiring fencing off the rails for liability reasons, keeping people from accessing and enjoying what should be a continuous (not possible with rail) commuter bike trail, and a second trail for pedestrians and children where there is space in densely populated areas such as Kirkland.  I have been caught on the right-of-way when the dinner train came by and it is frightening to be within 50' of it.  The rails need to be removed if we are to have a delightful urban greenbelt.

More and more space is being freed up on the freeways as fuel prices increase and people switch to buses and carpools.  Let's use public transit funds to get more buses rolling on express routes all around the eastside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The corridor south of Woodinville should be thought of for what it is, an abandoned rail-banked right-of-way that is now available for better uses.</p>
<p>Even the dinner train through Kirkland would severely compromise the corridor for far better uses, by requiring fencing off the rails for liability reasons, keeping people from accessing and enjoying what should be a continuous (not possible with rail) commuter bike trail, and a second trail for pedestrians and children where there is space in densely populated areas such as Kirkland.  I have been caught on the right-of-way when the dinner train came by and it is frightening to be within 50&#8242; of it.  The rails need to be removed if we are to have a delightful urban greenbelt.</p>
<p>More and more space is being freed up on the freeways as fuel prices increase and people switch to buses and carpools.  Let&#8217;s use public transit funds to get more buses rolling on express routes all around the eastside.</p>
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		<title>By: Debra Sinick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debra Sinick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Don,

Thanks for your feedback.  Ironically, I was over at the Totem Lake intersection today just before 1 PM as a train came by. Obviously, all the traffic had to stop.  During a non-rush hour time in which I was already near the beginning of the line at the stop light, it took 4 minutes for me to get through the intersection.  Imagine if it was 7:30 in the morning when many, many more cars are coming through the intersection.  If a train came through and all traffic stopped, how long would it take for cars to negotiate the intersection?  Since I was right in front of the line, it took me 4 minutes.  I'm guessing it could add at least 10 minutes or more to someone's commute.  Mind you, the person whose commute would be impacted would be someone who lives in Kirkland or on English Hill in Redmond. The local commute time would be increased by a train delivering people from further out.  Our local commute would suffer at the expense of the train commute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Don,</p>
<p>Thanks for your feedback.  Ironically, I was over at the Totem Lake intersection today just before 1 PM as a train came by. Obviously, all the traffic had to stop.  During a non-rush hour time in which I was already near the beginning of the line at the stop light, it took 4 minutes for me to get through the intersection.  Imagine if it was 7:30 in the morning when many, many more cars are coming through the intersection.  If a train came through and all traffic stopped, how long would it take for cars to negotiate the intersection?  Since I was right in front of the line, it took me 4 minutes.  I&#8217;m guessing it could add at least 10 minutes or more to someone&#8217;s commute.  Mind you, the person whose commute would be impacted would be someone who lives in Kirkland or on English Hill in Redmond. The local commute time would be increased by a train delivering people from further out.  Our local commute would suffer at the expense of the train commute.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Winters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Winters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debra -- I don't agree with your position. I feel the BNSF line is a unique opportunity for us to have a commuter rail system at a fraction of the cost of the light rail systems Sound Transit would normally install. There are some obstacles, but they can be overcome. 

The intersection issue -- Some important roads already have over/underpasses, such as the two main routes into downtown Kirkland, NE 85th St. and Kirkland Way. There are some major intersections that would pose some problems, notably 124th and 124th as you pointed out and NE 8th St. in Bellevue. But, these intersections already have rail traffic on them. This would increase, but would still be far below the traffic on most major roads. 

I live one block from the tracks in Kirkland, but I just don't see the problem with these trains. Several have mentioned diesel as if it's a horrible thing. Every bus and large truck on the road -- thousands of vehicles in our area -- use diesel, and the trains wouldn't increase this use a measurable amount.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debra &#8212; I don&#8217;t agree with your position. I feel the BNSF line is a unique opportunity for us to have a commuter rail system at a fraction of the cost of the light rail systems Sound Transit would normally install. There are some obstacles, but they can be overcome. </p>
<p>The intersection issue &#8212; Some important roads already have over/underpasses, such as the two main routes into downtown Kirkland, NE 85th St. and Kirkland Way. There are some major intersections that would pose some problems, notably 124th and 124th as you pointed out and NE 8th St. in Bellevue. But, these intersections already have rail traffic on them. This would increase, but would still be far below the traffic on most major roads. </p>
<p>I live one block from the tracks in Kirkland, but I just don&#8217;t see the problem with these trains. Several have mentioned diesel as if it&#8217;s a horrible thing. Every bus and large truck on the road &#8212; thousands of vehicles in our area &#8212; use diesel, and the trains wouldn&#8217;t increase this use a measurable amount.</p>
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		<title>By: BNSF Trail Cartoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BNSF Trail Cartoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Debra Sinick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debra Sinick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thans, Rob.  I will try to write a follow-up from the meeting as I think it is important.  I will write something here or on my blog and include a link.

Interesting meeting, though.  Definitely a lot of strong opinions and passionate speakers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thans, Rob.  I will try to write a follow-up from the meeting as I think it is important.  I will write something here or on my blog and include a link.</p>
<p>Interesting meeting, though.  Definitely a lot of strong opinions and passionate speakers.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Butcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Butcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 05:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debra,
Thank you for writing such an informative and well-argued post. Your passion for this issue is commendable!
I just returned from City Hall meeting you recommended and it was packed! I was lucky to get a seat as many had to stay in the foyer. Good to see you there. The vast majority of speakers were in enthusiastic support of your position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debra,<br />
Thank you for writing such an informative and well-argued post. Your passion for this issue is commendable!<br />
I just returned from City Hall meeting you recommended and it was packed! I was lucky to get a seat as many had to stay in the foyer. Good to see you there. The vast majority of speakers were in enthusiastic support of your position.</p>
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		<title>By: Trail Envy-Wishing Kirkland, Washington Could Have a World Class Trail &#171; Kirkland Highlands Real Estate Buzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trail Envy-Wishing Kirkland, Washington Could Have a World Class Trail &#171; Kirkland Highlands Real Estate Buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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